bodkin77 (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

Don't forget to adjust your oxygen sensor, air/fuel ratios and ignition timing. You may need to replace the sensor with a special one. The ignition timing would need to be tuned (not calculated) due to the adjustments (inc. the hydrogen fumigation) altering the air and fuel flow patterns in the combustion chamber and essentially altering the combustion pressure. I guess this tuning would be done by most car computers but the o2 sensors need replacing. cont...

bodkin77 (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

Your equipment is inefficient. To my knowledge, you need a large surface area and close proximity of anode and cathode. I think that is far more advantageous than using thick plates. In that container, you could probably fit 2 dozen thinner plates (12 anode cathode pairs), such as in batteries. Maybe the salt makes up for this though, I'm not sure. I think that dry cells are more efficient and I would assume they'd be easier and safer in cars. continued...

mossy3210 (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

no i dont think its worth while running this thing off your car u will b using more energy than ur putting in, ud b better off running it off a wind turbine and storing it.

scott02127 (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

About time someone explained it, instead of just showing it off!

glourie (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

i have a question. You were creating hydrogen while the battery was hooked up to the two stainless steel plates... how long after the battery is disconnected will you still be able to get a combustion reaction

TheKingOfToast (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

Alright, sounds good to me. Lol, problem solved I guess.

RandyJ007 (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

Hmmm.... that is interesting. I'm pretty sure you're right about a dash of table salt not being enough to produce Cl2, too. In the end though, at least we both agree that salt makes a BAD electrolyte.

TheKingOfToast (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

Well, you know what is interesting; I decided to do a little research and, with my equation it seems that;(2)NaCl+(2)H2O => (2)HCl+Na2Owould then cause;Na20+H2O => (2)NaOHMy belief, is that this final yield of Sodium Hydroxide would cause people to believe that there is more chlorine gas being produced than HClAlso in order for the production of Cl2 the solution must be saturated, which, a dash of table salt wouldn't even come close to doing.So I think more, if anything, we are both wrong

RandyJ007 (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

See it all comes down to the energy states bro. Atoms are ALWAYS looking to bond in such a way so that thier atoms are in the lowest possible energy states. Will some H atoms bond with Cl, sure. All that is meant by the equation: (2)NaCl + (2)H2O → Cl2 + H2 + (2)NaOH; is that MOST of the atoms will follow this path, but not all of them. You seem pretty smart kid, and I respect that. Most people turn tail & run when I say something halfway smart, but you gave me quite a run. Kudos my friend.

RandyJ007 (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

You're right. I DO come of as very cocky & arrogant, and since you're the FIRST person to have the testicular fortitude to tell me that I'm gonna treat you with some respect. You ARE right about the HCl... sort of. The electrolysis will probably produce some minute amonuts of HCl, but not much. Here is the reason: when H+ bonds to Cl-, the electrons are NOT in the lowest energy state, but they will be with 2 H atoms bonding. Plus, hydrogen is a diatomic gas and will bond with itself very quickly